No, we don’t want to be like the UK!

Quite often, in my travels on these here Interwebz, I find gun grabbers pontificating how cool it would be if we were just like Britain. After all, they have stringent gun control, and their homicide rates are SOOOOOO much lower than ours!

Must be the fault of the evil gunz, right?

After all, the United States, according to recent figures, has 4.7 murders per 100,000 residents, while the United Kingdom has 1.

Must be the fault of the evil gunz, right?

Ehhhh… not so fast.

While the United States does, in fact, have a higher murder rate than the UK and much more guns in circulation, anyone with a shred of an education knows that correlation does not equal causation, and that the presence of guns tells a very limited and very inaccurate story.

We have by far one of the highest per capita gun ownership rates in the world, and yet, we’re far from being the most violent country out there.

Countries such as Latvia, that have the same per capita murder rate that we do, have a much lower gun ownership rate.  Whereas we boast 90 firearms per 100 people, and despite this fact, our per capita homicide rates are below those of Estonia and Lithuania, Haiti, the Cayman Islands, and Mexico, which all have gun ownership rates far below ours.

So is it really the guns?

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I’m thinking not so much, especially with our homicide, accidental death and violent crime rates on the decline, while gun ownership increases.

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The UK enacted its strict gun control legislation after the 1996 Dunblane massacre, which resulted in the deaths of 16 children and their teacher. The ban did not stop murders in the UK. As a matter of fact, they increased dramatically in the aftermath of the legislation, and reached their peak in 2003/2004.

That said, the nation has had historically low homicide rates to begin with, so the increase was definitely noticeable.

What also is notable are the low homicide rates prior to the enactment of the gun control legislation, which left most Britons disarmed and vulnerable to armed thugs.

So in a country with historically low homicide rates, one incident prompted a comprehensive infringement on the people’s right to bear arms, and said infringement had no appreciable effect on the already low homicide rates in this country.

Meanwhile in the United States, we finally got rid of the odious and worthless “assault” weapons ban, gun ownership rates have been climbing, and homicide rates have been declining steadily.

But if you think that the Brits are finished spanking the gun owners for incidents of violence for which they are not responsible, you would be wrong.  According the latest news from the UK, if you’re a registered gun owner in Britain, you will be subject to unannounced police visits to your home, and warrantless inspections of firearms storage.

Right to privacy? Forget it.

Right to property? Screw you.

If you are a gun owner in the UK, you have no rights. And yet, we have Mommies Demanding Action for Gunsense screeching about safe storage laws… for the children.

They either don’t understand that such mandates would involve massive violations of Americans’ Fourth Amendment rights, or they don’t care.

My bet is on the latter.

They want more stringent controls. They demand universal background checks that would essentially eliminate private firearms sales, infringing on the people’s right to dispose of their property without government interference.

They want a ban on scary, black rifles for no other reason than they’re black and scary.

And all for what?

For nothing. The UK’s example shows that their gun control laws have had no effect on actual murder rates, but instead of looking at actual causes of violence, the gun grabbers in this country want to be just like the UK.

Do we want to emulate a nation that routinely infringes on its citizens’ right to privacy, right to property, and right to self defense in vain?

I would hope the answer is a resounding “NO!”

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12 thoughts on “No, we don’t want to be like the UK!”

  1. To compound matters in the U.K., their government agencies, from local police to the Home Office, are notorious for brazenly altering violent crime statistics to show their various policies (not the least of which, Victim Disarmament) as effective. In actuality, violent crime in the U.K. has been skyrocketing. This has been shown repeatedly over the years, and reported in the press in 2000, 2008, 2010, and 2013. But, ultimately, it doesn’t matter. Those that actually control their government (and those who control ours) are not ill-informed, misguided, or stupid. Not at all. As science fiction writer L.Neil Smith has pointed out; “…They want us dead.”

    1. Technically, it’s a bit more complicated than that when it comes to violent crime writ large, which is why I didn’t write about it. Our definitions of “violent crime” are different. That said, as you said – it doesn’t matter, because guns have nothing to do with it. Freedom does. 🙂

  2. I think that used to be the case, but they actually changed the way they report crime a couple of years ago. The bigger issue is their definition of “crime.” Some interesting info here.

  3. The answer would be a resounding “NO!” if you’re talking to someone with any sense.

    If you’re talking to a gun-grabbing, anti-rights person, the answer is, “Well, if it saves just one child’s life…”, and never mind the children who will be lost because they or their parents aren’t allowed to do anything but dial 9-1-1 and wait for help that in all probability won’t arrive in time.

    BTW, if you want a good run-down of statistics comparing U.S. population, gun ownership, and “gun crime”/”gun death” rates over time, check out the “Graphics Matter” series Linoge posts up at his Walls of the City blog (Year 5, part one and part two). The results should be no surprise, but it’s good to know the numbers are on our side. 🙂

  4. I wonder if the child groomers in Rotherham would have been a little more nervous if their victims fathers had had access to firearms?

  5. Crime rates are irrelevant!

    Our natural rights (i.e. self defense) as codified in our Constitutional rights are not subservient to them.

    Our ability to resist democides makes them an almost trivial point. Orders of magnitude more disarmed people have been killed by their own governments.

    It is a false argument from the start that we would be safer if those pesky firearms were just kept in the hands of the government.

    Only a fool would trust politicians to protect them.

  6. Fine! No-one’s asking the US to be like us Brits.

    You carry on with what you prefer and we’ll do the same.

    Personally, I know too many nuts who’d start a killing spree to allow guns for anything but sporting reasons.

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