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Lewiston Shooting And Red Flag Laws

Regarding the mass shooting in Maine, I received this in an email.

A bit more on SFC Robert Card: Army spox says that after his medical evaluation in July — done after unit leadership observed him ‘behaving erratically’ — the Army directed he “should not have a weapon, handle ammunition, and not participate in live fire activity.”

Another person commented:

Well that fits the narrative well. More “ammo” to justify red flag laws.

Not really. In fact, some folks will probably hope this goes away, because they won’t want to draw attention to the massive series of failures on the part of law enforcement.

Maine has a “yellow flag law,” instead of the left’s preferred no-due process “red flag” laws.

The law differs from red flag laws in that it requires police first to get a medical practitioner to evaluate the person and find them to be a threat before police can petition a judge to order the person’s firearms to be seized.

A formal evaluation by a medical professional and a hearing. How ’bout that? What the left doesn’t like about this is that only the police can request this, and that hearing.

In the case of the Lewiston killer, the police had every reason and opportunity to invoke the yellow flag law.

In May, in a written statement, the perp’s ex-wife informed the police that he was mentally unstable, a danger to others, and that he possessed several firearms.

Other family members contacted the police to inform them that he was unstable and dangerous. Law enforcement attempted several “wellness checks,” sometimes reaching, somethimes not. At one point, the sheriff reportedly told a responding deputy to blow it off; because the sheriff knew of the killer-to-be, and figured he’d just get over it as he had other times.

In July, he was involuntarily committed, making him a prohibited person. Reportedly, New York law enforcement was involved.

In September, the National Guard informed Maine law enforcement that he was nuts and dangerous. For once, they did something: they issued a statewide alert on him.

And cancelled it a few days later. About a week later, he started his killing spree.

At no point did Maine law enforcement decide that this guy, whom they knew to be 1) crazy, 2) dangerous, and 3) armed, should be “yellow flag” and taken into custody for evaluation and seizing his firearms. Now add in that, with the National Guard’s alert, they should alos have known that he was a prohibited person. And took no action.

All the Baker Acts, red flag laws, and yellow flag laws in the world won’t help if the authorities refuse to use them. In Card’s case, I suspect that he was part of the good ol’ boy network; as a firearms trainer, he may have even trained the sheriff’s deputies. So the sheriff didn’t want to cause the guy legal problems; after all, it was as if he’d killed anyone. Yet. He’ll get over it. Again. Right?.

So they didn’t, and he didn’t. And poeple died because of it.

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Lewiston, Maine Shooting

Nasty news to wake up to: At least 22 dead, and 50 injured.

Maine mass shooting live updates: Sheltered Maine resident ‘locked and loaded’ during manhunt for mass shooting person of interest
A gunman killed at least 22 people in separate shootings across Lewiston, Maine, Wednesday night, according to law enforcement sources and reports. Maine mass shooting live updates: Sheltered Maine resident ‘locked and loaded’ during manhunt for mass shooting person of interest

The person of interest behind the deadly mass shooting in Maine is reportedly a trained firearms instructor believed to be in the Army Reserve, according to law enforcement sources in the state.

Robert Card, 40, was stationed out of Saco, Maine and reported “hearing voices” and threatened to shoot up the National Guard Base where he was stationed, the sources said.

Ignorant loudmouth Shannon Watts of Mom’s Demand Bloodshed naturally blames Maine’s allegedly lax gun laws; specifically a lack of a 72 hour waiting period to purchase a firearm, and a lack of a “red flag” law.

I blame something else. Card himself, of course; but…

According to law enforcement, CARD recently reported mental health issues to include hearing voices and threats to shoot up the National Guard Base in Saco, ME. CARD was also reported to have been committed to mental health facility for two weeks during summer 2023 and subsequently released.

So… they have a crazy guy threatening to kill people. He gets committed to a psych ward…

And then let loose. Maybe that last part was a mistake.

Card was reportedly a firearms instructor; my guess is that he probably already had firearms, and a 72 hour waiting period would not have prevented this. Keeping the dangerous guy locked up would.

So what if Maine lacks a n-due process “red flag” law? Anyone who had been threatened by Card — that is, anyone and everyone assigned to that base — could have requested a perfectly normal protective order and requested any firearm be removed .

And why would they be removed, aside from the death threats? “[H]ave been committed to mental health facility.

That’s why; 18 U.S. Code § 922(g)(4). He was a prohibited person.

If he did have to buy his firearm for this slaughter, that would should have prevented him from buying one from licensed dealer. (And likely from people who knew him and knew he’d gone nuts.)

Someone was supposed to report Card’s committal to NICS. If the military committed him, well, we know the military has a major reporting problem.

Civil authorities aren’t much better.

It’s a little early to be blaming a lack of gun laws for this.

Something else that I hope to hear more about is Card’s auditory hallucinations. That’s common in schizophrenia. But as a retired nurse mentioned, 40 years old is an odd time for schizophrenia to pop up. It usually shows up much earlier in life.

Other things can cause hallucinations: Lewy Body Dementia, brain tumors. But something I ran across recently came to mind.

One of the adverse effects of the ChinCOVID pseudo-vaccine that’s been showing up is hallucinations. Doctor’s have noted it, and it shows up in studies. As a reservist apparently on active status (assigned to the base), there’s a good chance that Card received the ChinCOVID inoculations.

But that’s just speculation. Card is not yet in custody. But once caught (or his body found), maybe we’ll learn more about what caused his break.

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