Hmm kind of things

I ran across this story tonight, ‘I didn’t mean to’: Police reveal 12-year-old girl ACCIDENTALLY shot at classmates and injured five in LA middle school after dropping her backpack which was carrying a loaded gun Some of the bullet points in the article were

  • Police say the shooting at Salvador Castro Middle School in Los Angeles on Thursday morning was accidental

  • A 12-year-old girl was arrested and charged with negligent discharge of a firearm on school grounds

  • One of the girl’s classmates said she told him the gun was in her backpack and that it accidentally went off when she dropped the bag

  • Another classmate said the girl had said she thought it was a toy gun

  • Shooting left one teenager critically wounded and three other children injured

  • A 15-year-old male was shot in the temple and remains in intensive care, while a girl, 15, was shot in the wrist

  • Two other students, as well as a 30-year-old woman, were treated for non-gunshot wounds

A 12-year-old girl was arrested after gunfire erupted at Salvador Castro Middle School on Thursday morning.

Los Angeles police spokesman Josh Rubenstein says the girl has since been charged with negligent discharge of a firearm on school grounds.

The charge comes after one of the girl’s classmates, also 12, revealed he spoke to her moments after the gun went off and said she was sobbing and repeatedly saying: ‘I didn’t mean it.’

She told him the gun was in her backpack and that it accidentally went off when she dropped the bag.

Another classmate also said the girl didn’t mean to hurt anyone, saying she thought it was a toy gun.

The list of injured: A 15-year-old male who was shot in the temple,a girl, 15, suffered a gunshot wound to her wrist, an 11-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl were grazed and were treated and released from the hospital, and a 30 year old woman was also injured and treated in hospital.

This baffles me. Modern firearms are pretty reliable, and I understand it most modern firearms are unlikely to “go off” if dropped. I said most. I know I’ve certainly had a very stern talk with mine. Since people control advocates seem to feel guns have a mind of their own, I thought I’d cover all the bases and make sure mine realize that is unacceptable behavior. But back to my pondering.

The girl had the gun in her backpack. The story doesn’t say how she obtained it. Nor does it say why she had it in her backpack, or who she got it from. I’m actually not dogging the reporter on this, I just don’t think it was known. I am astonished she is being charged with negligent discharge and not the mountain of other crimes with which a normal concealed carrier would have been charged. We are talking about California #FutureVenezuela here. Or as my compatriot Bear calls it, “Occupied territory”.

But if she A) dropped the backpack B) the gun just went off. How many times did it go off that so many were wounded off of one cartridge? It’s making me think of the JFK assassination “magic bullet”. I’m not saying it couldn’t have happened that way, crowded hall and all, but, still.

The whole thing is just sad. And without knowing any other background the one thing that is front in my mind is that if firearms education were allowed in schools perhaps this would never happen as the girl, who’s life is bound to be a mess now if it wasn’t before, would have known the difference between a toy gun and a real one. She would have known safe gun handling practices if she had stumbled upon one, and she sure as heck would have known you don’t play with them.

But no, California would never allow firearms education in schools, after all, it’s for the children.

But had this been a real school shooting, with gun fire “erupting” as the column stated I’m quite sure the toll would have been far higher. After all, schools are Gun-free zones, to keep everyone “safe”. That’s “for the children” too.


7 thoughts on “Hmm kind of things”

  1. “I dropped the bag and it went off…” Since this is Gun Control Paradise Kalifornia, that’s impossible: they have a drop safety test that any handgun sold in the state must pass.
    That story was a little short of reported facts I’ve seen elsewhere: 15yo boy struck in head, 15yo girl struck in wrist (I can see ways that was a single round). The other three injuries were reported as non-gunshots; 1 or 2 ht by glass, the third not specified.

    In fact, the whole incident must be a mass hallucination. OcCal just forced all schools to be “gun-free” (when they realized some north state school were authorizing carry) so the gun should have been magically repelled, 12yos can’t have guns, 12yos can’t carry guns, unattended guns are locked up. Shooting people is illegal. If “gun” control laws work, none of that happened.

  2. But if she A) dropped the backpack B) the gun just went off. How many times did it go off that so many were wounded off of one cartridge?

    As Carl pointed out, I can see how that could have been just one shot: one bullet goes through the girl’s wrist and hits the boy in the temple. The lost velocity of a low-power round would explain why the boy is expected to recover fully from a head-shot. The other injuries were reported to be non-gunshot-related. Could be broken glass, jostling/trampling in the ensuing panic (even without “gunfire”, blood and screaming tend to create panic), etc.

    (Plus, the news feed this morning featured an interview with another student who described the sound as a “pop” that wasn’t immediately recognized as “gunfire” … which could describe a .22 fired from inside a backpack. If it was a revolver or derringer, it could even have been a .22 short, and some such “mouse guns” chambered for .22 short are small enough they could be mistaken for toys if one is really as clueless on guns as CA law demands. But that’s all speculation on my part.)

    Either way, this is what can be expected when a state strangles its gun culture: clueless kids picking up guns and thinking they’re toys, and playing with them or taking them to school.

    One last question though: Assuming she didn’t know it was a real gun, and knowing she didn’t understand the gun laws of her state, does she AT LEAST grok the “zero-tolerance” weapon policies of her school/district? Possession of an actual toy gun (e.g. a NERF gun) is grounds for expulsion in every K-12 school in the country, and you won’t convince me she didn’t understand THAT! So she was already willing to break some rules….

    [sarcasm] What we need, clearly, is more rules for the kids and parents who DIDN’T do anything wrong. [/sarcasm]

  3. Another report:

    Jordan Valenzuela, 12, told The Associated Press he was in class when he heard the bang and screaming. Valenzuela said the suspect told him it was an accident.

    He said the sobbing girl told him: “I didn’t mean to. I had the gun in my backpack and I didn’t know it was loaded and my backpack fell and the gun went off,” the seventh-grader said.

    Valenzuela said the girl asked him to hide the backpack with the gun inside.

    She didn’t know the “toy” was loaded. And the first thing she thought of when it went off was that her “toy” discharged, and to ask another student to hide it.

    And she just dropped the bag? Not according this one:

    Shortly after students were allowed to leave, a 12-year-old boy told a reporter that he had been in the classroom where the gun went off and had seen students “playing” with it beforehand. Benjamin, whose aunt asked that he be identified by only his first name, said he was in the back of the class when he heard a “loud pop” toward the front.

  4. [snip]

    Mod: As this point we know nothing about the alleged shooter other than she’s 12 and female. Let’s watch our assumptions. – Carl “Bear” Bussjaeger

  5. I seems that the narrative is not to charge a minority (illegal?) with a gun crime for having an illegal gun from her home. We need to suppress information of illegal immigrants with illegal guns. Better to chalk it up to an accident, leave details out – AND SCREAM FOR LAWS TO BURDEN LEGAL GUN OWNERS WITH OBLIGATIONS TO DISASSEMBLE FIREARMS AND STORE IN SEPARATE TXTL-60 rated safes with ammunition stored on separate premises more than a mile away – under penalty of felony prosecution with a maximum penalty of ten years in prison for each firearm and/or bullet!

    Well what the hell, they take their citizen disarmament laws VERY SERIOUS. In NY the penalty for possession of a magazine that holds more than ten is SEVEN YEARS IN PRISON – FOR EACH MAGAZINE. A guy got pulled over and had three G19 mags in his car – no bullets – no gun. LOOKING AT 21 YEARS IN PRISON! No violent crime – not committing a crime – minor traffic stop. PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE AND DO LESS TIME!

  6. At last report, the girl is refusing to talk to police. She won’t say where she got the gun. Her father denies owning it, but in his place I probably would to, even if it was mine.

    News says the area is heavy on gang activity, so my guess is she was carrying it for a gang member.

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