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Gun Owners of America finally notices the semiauto problem with bump-fire bans, and the crowd — finally — goes wild.

Let me tell you about a little-known pro-RKBA group. While GOA ignored this until a couple of weeks ago (when I started getting fundraising emails mentioning bump-fire stocks), and the National Restrictions Rifle Association actively pushed for it, The Zelman Partisans has been trying to warn you.

For months.

  • The Zelman Partisans Statement on Proposed Legislation to Ban “Bump-Fire Stocks” and other accessories. (October 5, 2017)
    Basically this Constitution-shredding Senator wants to redefine “machine gun” by how fast you can make something fire, rather than being designed to fire automatically as long as the trigger is depressed. Apparently Jerry Miculek is going to be outlawed.
  • Training Wheels (October 25, 2017)
    That is incorrect. An automatic weapon — a machinegun — is designed to fire multiple rounds per trigger operation. Bump-fire stocks in no way affect that operation/rounds relationship. If you put a bump-fire stock on a semiautomatic rifle, you still individually operate the trigger for each round fired. Bump-fire stocks don’t make the weapon fire faster. The theoretical rate of fire of the rifle is determined by the physics of the internal parts.
  • The fix is in: proposed rulemaking on bump-fire
    Instead of looking at mechanical function, and simple physics, in this document the ATF has adopted the media and gun controller definition of “if it’s fast, it must be a machinegun.” The intent is preordained regardless of comments.
  • Commenting Now Open: Application of the Definition of Machinegun to “Bump Fire” Stocks and Other Similar Devices. (December 29, 2017)
    Considering bump-fire stocks, and other accessories, to be machineguns would not simply regulate a physical device. It effectively outlaws the bump-fire TECHNIQUE, and even pulling the trigger faster than some arbitrary threshold.
  • That’ll be our first one-term president in a while (February 20, 2018)
    I wish I could be surprised, but even before Trump began to look like a serious candidate– well before he got the R nomination — I warned that his new-found verbal respect for RKBA was belied by a long anti-RKBA history.
  • “Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kinda cool.”* (February 26, 2018)
    “Machinegun” is defined in statutory law. Short form: a firearm that fires more than one round per trigger operation.If that can be changed by executive order, instead of congressional legislation, then everything is a machinegun waiting for the pen-stroke.What can he — would he — do with that pen?
  • Screw Physical Reality (March 10, 2018)
    If words having meaning, this is impossible without making every semiautomatic firearm an NFA item. Please note that this redefines machinegun without offering any grace period or grandfathering for existing gear.
  • Bump-fire Banned (March 23, 2018)
    And yes; The Zelman Partisans opposes this. Accepting this is in no way a compromise. We did not get reciprocal carry. We did get a dangerous Fix NICS. And this isn’t a merely bump-fire ban; it’s effectively a ban on semiautomatic firearms (and if you think Feinstein, Schumer et al aren’t aware of that, you weren’t paying attention): parts is parts.
  • Bumping Off the Truth (March 25, 2018)
    As noted on Friday, President Trump and AG Sessions announced a coming ban of bump-fire stocks (“bump-stock-type devices,” as the rule notice so eloquently puts it); no grandfathering, get rid of it or go to prison for possession of an unregistered NFA item.
  • Theoretically Speaking (March 28, 2018)
    In every case, bump-fire stocks (and trigger cranks and “Multi-burst Trigger Activators”) are bad merely because they assist the shooter in approaching the firearm’s inherent theoretical maximum rate of fire. The semiautomatic rate of fire is the problem.Take away the bump-fire stock, crank, or multi-burp shoulder thingy, and the evil — to the gun ban bunnies — rate of fire remains.
    Does anyone reading this honestly doubt that establishing the precedent of the theoretical rate of fire being the problem is exactly what they want?
  • “Bump-Stock-Type Devices” (sic) Commenting Now Open (March 29, 2018)
    The NPRM falsely states: “Specifically, these devices convert an otherwise semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun by functioning as a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism that harnesses the recoil energy of the semiautomatic firearm in a manner that allows the trigger to reset and continue firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. Hence, a semiautomatic firearm to which a bump-stock-type device is attached is able to produce automatic fire with a single pull of the trigger.”
  • Bump Stocks Matter: Banning Semiautomatic Firearms (April 2, 2018)
    If this were a move to specifically ban bump-fire stocks or trigger cranks on product safety grounds (unstable, inaccurate, etc.) you’d see a lot less opposition to it. But if you read the language of the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking [NPRM] (and every submitted bill I’ve tracked down so far), that isn’t what is being addressed. It is clearly and explicitly a “problem” of “rate of fire,” in that these devices — training wheels — assist the shooter in merely approaching the semiautomatic firearm’s theoretical rate of fire. (In the case of bump-fire, by using recoil to let the trigger reset, for the next manual operation.)

That’s a partial listing. You can find more.

You know what else “increases” the rate of fire? The breechloading Ferguson Rifle. Pre-measured paper cartridges. Revolvers. Bolt/lever action rifles with magazines. Slicked bolts and polished trigger groups. New springs.

Anything that improves the action.

Might I suggest joining the one pro-RKBA group that has consistently warned of, and opposed, these bans other others ignored, under-stated, or even supported them?



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BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING NEWS!!!!

This is a guest contribution from one of our TZP Facebook followers, Erik Johnson, who is also a friend and darn fine Viking.

It was all over the news. The radio reporter read how the United States had finally come to its senses; the time for knife control had arrived. London Mayor Sadiq Khan gave a speech to a joint session of congress repeating his words of great wisdom “No one needs to carry a knife!” Former comedians touted on their late night shows the fact that you don’t need a 10” meat cleaver to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Moms who don’t get action President Whannon Satts declared “No child should ever have to walk into a kitchen and see a weapon.” Nancy Pelosi proposed legislation banning high capacity assault knives with features similar to knives used by the military such as pliers and screwdrivers and those plastic tooth pickey thingies. Chuck Todd on Face the Nation held up a knife made by the Victorinox Corporation and asked “Who would ever need such a thing? It is clearly made for the army.” Joe Biden pointed out in a speech given to students at Berkley that in America more people are killed every year by knives than with AR-15s. Then his handlers tackled him to the ground and promptly shoved a sock in his mouth. A child who attended a school where a knife attack occurred, although he was truant on that day, Jesse Pig, waxed poetically on The View, “Our f—–g parents don’t f—–g know how f—–g to use a f—–g knife!”, then spit out the tide pod he was choking on. Of course the usual suspects gave the typical straw man arguments. National Rapier Association President Wayne LaThereThere called a press conference to ask, “How the hell are we supposed to cut a steak or even butter toast? Really people this is nuts!” Former President Obama was first to respond to the NRA’s claims saying, “Now let me be clear. No one needs a cut steak”, as a member of his secret service detail portioned a $2000 piece of kobe beef for him which he had pilfered from the White House kitchen prior to leaving office. Then my alarm went off. I looked at the pen knife I laid on the nightstand just before going to bed. “No”, I said to it, “This country will never become so insane we will try to ban knives.” The clock radio wailed as loud as it possibly could. The radio reporter read how the United States had finally come to its senses…..

Practical and commemorative. Because no one should be left defenseless!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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So Penguin, about that book

So little boss Hogg and his little Hogg sister are release a book to encourage taking rights, not privileges away from adults. Rights the little Hoggs are not even old enough to enjoy as they are still children. At least that’s how he referred to himself in his recent bullying session with Laura Ingraham.

The Hogg duo anxious to capitalize on their 27 seconds of fame have “written” a book. They must be paragons of organization. What with all the media appearance, school work and now managing to get a book released. All on their own. Amazing.

I received the following from a active TZP follower of facebook:

#NeverAgain has been the cry of the Jews for decades to remind people of the Holocaust under Nazi Germany.

Now, activist and high school student David Hogg is using the title “Never Again” for a book he is writing that will be published by Penguin Random House.

The book is about gun control. “A new generation has made it clear that problems previously deemed unsolvable due to powerful lobbies and political cowardice will be theirs to solve,” according to the preview of the upcoming book.

For anyone wishing to contact Penguin Random House about the title,

please call at 212-782-9000;

e-mail to: customerservice@penguinrandomhouse.com, RHAcademic@penguinrandomhouse.com, penguinpublicity@us.penguingroup.com, atrandompublicity@randomhouse.com, penguinpress@penguinrandomhouse.com

Should you wish to let Penguin books who have chosen to publish this know your opinion that’s how you can do so.

So thank you follower of TZP!!

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“[T]he riffle was a friend of his.”

The bravery of the Broward SO is exceeded only by their linguistic skills. [/sarc]

Uhm…
1) the video is still up
2) what’s a “riffle”?
3) they used my dad’s name as my mom’s
4) why did I need to tell you I didn’t threaten anyone, why didn’t you bother to look up the Tweet before?

I sent Mr. Kashuv a message earlier, hoping to clarify some points. I haven’t received a response, but I think this answers some of the questions:

Mr. Pittman, it was an illegal and unconstitutional detainment. See U.S. Code § 1983 and JDB v. North Carolina
1) the derogatory mentions of poliical beliefs.
2) the LEO in back of me holding my chair.
3) not contacting my parents prior
4) Calling me into a locked office

Taken to an office and the door locked, deputy holding his chair behind him. Sounds like “custody” to me, and questioning without parental or legal representation. Still no mention of Miranda being read to him.

Broward County taxpayers are not going to be happy about the inevitable settlement.


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Broward County grabs shovel, digs deeper

The Broward County Sheriff’s office and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School seem determined to cost taxpayers millions in legal settlements.

I found this report today:

BREAKING: Anti-Gun Control Parkland Survivor Kyle Kashuv Questioned By School Security For Visiting Gun Range With His Father
Near the end of third period, my teacher got a call from the office saying I need to go down and see a Mr. Greenleaf. I didn’t know Mr. Greenleaf, but it turned out that he was an armed school resource officer. I went down and found him, and he escorted me to his office. Then a second security officer walked in and sat behind me. Both began questioning me intensely. First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, “Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?”

They continued to question me aggressively, though they could cite nothing I had done wrong. They kept calling me “the pro-Second Amendment kid.” I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.

This is only one side of the story. As yet, I haven’t seen responses from the school or sheriff.

On the one hand, the authorities might well say that they are acting in a new abundance of caution in the aftermath of their previous massive collection of failures. That could even be reasonable.

They’ll still have to explain in court why a person who assaulted people and damaged property at school, who put guns to people’s heads and threatened to kill them, who vandalized property, who killed animals maliciously, who credibly threatened to shoot up his school — et cetera and so forth — warranted less of an investigation than a pro-rights kid who appears on national TV, meets with Senators, goes to the White House, and has never threatened anyone.

Working with Kashuv’s account, we have a kid who posted nonthreatening accounts of learning shoot with his father and an instructor, with pro-Second Amendment statements (i.e.- political speech outside of school). His principal tells him some students didn’t like his posts, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong.

Apparently Kashuv was considered so nonthreatening that he continued on to multiple classes without incident.

Until after noon, when he was sent to see “Mr. Greenleaf.”


Aside: Kashuv refers to Greenleaf a an “armed school resource officer.” Earlier reports identify a “Kevin Greenleaf” as a “civilian security monitor” and a “security specialist at the high school”. If he is a civilian and armed on school property, isn’t that a violation of Florida Statute 790.06? If he is a law enforcement officer — a sheriff’s school resource officer — why do multiple reports refer to him otherwise?


Kashuv says he met Greenleaf who, rather than speaking to him informally where they met, specifically took him to an office, where they were joined by a “second security officer walked in and sat behind me.”

If I was surrounded by armed people, I’d consider myself to be in custody. Oh, wait; I did consider myself in custody. And that wasn’t even in a private office.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again.

“Third officer” reinforces the concept of custody. And it raises the question of whether a civilian “security monitor” or “security specialist” presented himself as a law enforcement officer. I would very much like to see Greenleaf’s status clarified.

I’ve mentioned “custody” a few times for a good reason. A person in custody must be read his Miranda rights and allowed to stop talking without legal representation. A minor has additional protections because the courts assume that a minor can reasonably believe he is in custody under conditions that would not necessarily apply to an adult.

Kyle Kashuv was sixteen at the time of the shooting, and is still a legal minor. He was taken to a private office, apparently by an armed person, and questioned there by two, and then three, armed people whom Kashuv identified as “officers.” I am not a lawyer, but that sounds a lot like a situation in which he would believe himself to be in “custody.”

So Kashuv’s account raises questions that need answering by the school and sheriff’s office:

  • If the questioners said Kashuv had done nothing wrong, was this harassment purely for his out-of-school free political speech in support of Second Amendment rights?
  • Is Greenleaf a civilian unlawfully armed in a school?
  • If Greenleaf is a civilian, is he presenting himself in a way that would cause a reasonable person — especially a minor — to believe he is a law enforcement officer; that is, impersonating an officer?
  • Was Kashuv in custody and questioned without Miranda rights to parental or legal representation?

If Greenleaf is an armed civilian in the school, I expect we’ll see the school throw him under the bus. “Oh, we didn’t know he was carrying a gun in school. We’ll fire him immediately.” To cover their own asses, the sheriff’s office may have to arrest him.

I’m looking forward to statements from the BCoward Sheriff’s Office and the school.


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Let slip the dogs of panickmongering

Oh dear, another mass shooting involving an AR-pattern rifle.

First the report:

BREAKING: Multiple People Have Just Been Killed In A Gun Free Zone!!
A man wearing nothing but a coat stormed a Waffle House restaurant in Tennessee before dawn Sunday and shot four people to death, according to police, who credited a customer with saving lives by wresting a weapon away from the gunman.

An almost naked guy shoots up a breakfast shop in the middle of the night. I think it’s safe to suspect mental health issues.

But the details get interesting. Because you know this will — and probably has been by the time you read this Monday morning — be used to rally the victim disarming people controllers. Let me don my Carnac the Magnificent turban and make a few predictions.

  • The control freaks will cry for an “assault weapon” (when they aren’t calling it an assault rifle) ban.
    It wasn’t an assault weapon under Illinois or Tennessee law. Define, then ineffectively ban it.
  • Background checks!
    The weapon was legally purchased in Illinois. Which means the fish bait had a FOID (background check) and had another background check when he purchased it.
  • Waiting periods.
    He bought the rifle in 2011; seven years ago. How long a waiting period do thet want? (he asked rhetorically)
  • Military grade weapons in the hands of civilians!
    Too late, that already happened. Perhaps Congressslime Cooper will tell us what nation on the planet routinely issues semiautomatic firearms to its regular troops as its standard weapon.

As we’ve seen in recent psychopath-induced tragedies, sometimes law enforcement plays an unfortunate role. This one?

Chumbucket was known to both local Illinois law enforcement and the FBI. Looks like state and local LE in Tennessee had some encounters with him, too. It seems young Mr. Asshole was arrested in DC scaling the White House fence for an impromptu Presidential interview. At a guess, he was under indictment for federal trespass (prohibited person).

On the bright side, Illinois authorities cancelled his FOID and confiscated his guns (supporting the “under indictment” theory). On the down side, they gave the guns to his father whom they belive handed right back to our little prohibited (and now unlicensed) person. Oooh; unlawful transfer, and no background check.

So a troubled prohibited person, known to authorities in two states, and federal LE, unlawfully obtained firearms and did a bad thing.

Here’s another similarity to other shootings: The perpetrator wasn’t stopped by the police. Citizens stepped up. (To be clear: in Ocala, the SRO moved quickly towards the fire not knowing the shooter had surrendered. It simply took time for him to arrive, and he still had him in cuffs three minutes after the shot. He did right.)

In this case, the hero was James Shaw Jr., who had the testicular endowment and intestinal fortitude to tackle an armed shooter while himself unarmed. Before the cops could arrive.

Note that recurring theme: Before the cops could arrive. Even when they aren’t displaying Broward County-level cowardice, it takes the cops time to get there. It’s nice to have the capability to help yourself while waiting.


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A Gated Community

I’m at risk of turning this into my personal blog, so I really meant to cut back on posts.* But sometimes I see something that needs to be shared.

These are the people working to disarm America.

Because it worked so well in other places and times.

‘Stunning’: Holocaust Museum tour by lawmaker who said Jews control weather does not go well
The photo, taken in 1935, depicts a woman in a dark dress shuffling down a street in Norden, Germany. A large sign hangs from her neck: “I am a German girl and allowed myself to be defiled by a Jew.” She is surrounded by Nazi storm troopers.

D.C. Council member Trayon White Sr. (D-Ward 8) studied the image. “Are they protecting her?”

Lynn Williams, an expert on educational programs at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum and White’s tour guide for the day, stared at the photo.

“No,” she said. “They’re marching her through.”

“Marching through is protecting,” White said.
[…]
… Seven of White’s staff members stayed with the guide, who soon was showing them an exhibit on the Warsaw Ghetto. As she explained the walling in of Polish Jews, one aide asked whether it was similar to “a gated community.”

[Rabbi Batya] Glazer spoke up.

“Yeah, I wouldn’t call it a gated community,” she said. “More like a prison.”

In case you’ve forgotten, Councilman Trayon White is the lunatic who thinks Jews are Interociter-armed fiends controlling the weather.


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Then and Now

According to my various newsfeeds, students across the country plan to skip school again today to shamelessly dance in 19 year-old Columbine blood to demand more gun control. After all, it’s been nearly twenty years and we still haven’t stopped school shootings.

Let’s look at what they want:

Raise firearms purchase age limit to 21.
The Columbine shooters obtained their firearms unlawfully, through a combination of straw purchases and illegal sales to 17yos.

They broke age limit laws.

“Assault weapon ban.
The Columbine shooters only had one “assault weapon” (TEC-9; illegally obtained: see above) and that was smack in the middle of the 1994-2004 federal “assault weapon ban.

That one didn’t work.

Universal background checks.
See above, re: illegal and straw purchases.

They broke laws to get around background checks.

“High capacity” magazine ban.
The Columbine shooters used a carbine with 10-round magazines, a pump-action shotgun (illegally sawed-off), a double-barrel shotgun (illegally sawed-off, and just try to jam a magazine in there), and — yes — a TEC-9 (see above) with likewise banned “high capacity” magazines

And another one doesn’t work.

Bump-fire stock ban.
Well, commercial bump-fire stocks didn’t exist yet. But they weren’t used in Parkland either. In fact, we don’t really know of any crime committed with a “bump stock;” the recent “bump-stock-type device” proposed rule claims that the Mandalay Bay chumbucket used them, but…

Search for it: find a single instance where anyone connected to the investigation said they were used. The GAO, in a recent report, carefully noted that bump stocked rifles were found, but did not say they were used. The FOIA bump stock/Mandalay Bay ATF data dump redacted anything that indicated which guns were used and which were not. More than six months, and they won’t say what was used, even as “bump stocks were used” is the rallying cry for idiots wanting them banned by law and rule.

The shooters were prohibited persons (a judge ordered them into mental health treatment). That law didn’t stop them either.

But some other things certainly haven’t changed since Columbine.

The shooters, just a few months before the shooting, produced a school project video… in which they acted out killing fellow students in the halls of their school.

The shooters were known to the police, both for prior criminal arrests, and from an investigation of videos they’d posted in which they tested the illegal bombs they manufactured. The type of bombs they planted in the school. The police declined to apply for warrants, and dropped the matter.

Continuing with the theme of cops not doing their jobs, the police did not enter the school until the shooters had finished the job (on themselves). Although a couple of officers did engage the shooters outside, which is more than Coward County’s Finest would do.

The laws these ill-informed children are demanding already failed to stop mass shootings, even as they succeeded in violating the rights of tens of millions of people who didn’t do it.

Reality is not their forte. None have — or can — explained why the laws would work this time on people bent on evading those laws. Nor have they explained how laws against an unknown number — but definitely in the millions — of guns in unknown hands in unknown locations would be enforced, let alone deal with malicious “compliance”.

How many of these wanna-be future leaders are volunteering to lead confiscation raid teams because the targets are well-armed?

Maybe they’ll require gun owners to carry their illicit arms in clear plastic backpacks to make them easily detected, so the violators can be summarily hanged at their convenience.


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Happy 70th Birthday Israel!

Today is Yom HaAtzmaut, Israeli Independence Day. And she is 70 years old. Doesn’t she look beautiful for 70?

Pre-state Israel

Acco Prison

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A little movie

 

I didn’t actually ask Shmuel for these, he just shared them today and they were what I wanted. I just did the column on Yom HaZikaron yesterday and was talking about those that died fighting for Israel even before she was recognized by man as a state. I suppose I don’t need to say G-d recognized her as such long before do I? Shmuel Sackett from the Zehut political party had done this column and recently sent it out again Seventy Years and Forgotten. This column explains who he is talking about in the video.

New State of Israel

A TRUE Feminist

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Middle age

For Israel that would be 1983 and Israelis were rocked by the murder of 14 year old Danny Katz.

Young Danny Katz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But they cheered the victory of Ofra Haza winning second place in the Eurovision song contest in Munich with the song Alive, Chai.

Israel at 70. This is the face I think of when I think of Israel at 70. Yeah, she was a socialist and what a shame, and she isn’t alive to see Israel’s 70th, but Golda rocked. She was a strong, quick witted woman. Her face is a bit lined and weathered from the trials and storms she has withstood, but in her eye she still has the look of eagles.

Amazing Golda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what I would hope for Israel’s future? A Prime Minister Moshe Feiglin.

A Prime Minister Moshe

 

 

 

 

 

 

I spent the evening at a Yom HaAtzmaut party tonight, a big happy birthday party. I was teaching interested parties, and/or ones that Efi corraled and sent me about different kinds of Israeli Technology. It was fun, even if I did have to shout over the lively music and most of the people were wowed by the technology. I came home and made myself dinner of couscous also known as Ben Gurion rice, veggies and chickpeas. And then I baked Israel a birthday cake, since I was so busy yelling at people I didn’t get any.

After I ate, I checked my email and that’s always educational. Tonight I learned that the column I did on Yom HaShoah is incorrect. Sent from a friend who thought I should know I need to study some more.

Who knew?

 

 

 

 

 

Huh, the heck ya say?

I think if it were me, I would ask him why he thinks General Dwight D. Eisenhower is a liar. And the Germans, who kept excellent records. And Gen. George S. Patton, who would no doubt bitch slap him. And the American, Russian, Brits and the smattering of French armed forces, and the Polish Partisans. Unless he’s just going with the word of the German citizens, who said they had no idea anything was going on.

Ike saw it coming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And this is why Israel needs to be as a strong safe place where a Jew can wake up, and live as a Jew, and sleep in peace at night. They should be able to wear a Kippah in public without fear of it making them a target as it does France today, and Britain.

Israel, may G-d bless, guard and guide you as you gather your children underneath your wings. Happy Birthday. The world says 70, I say a few thousand.

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It’s only cognitive dissonance if you’re cognitive

…of the contradiction between this goal…

Arizona students plan to occupy state Capitol with ‘die-in’ for gun control
Students with the March for Our Lives movement said they plan to occupy several buildings at the Arizona Capitol on Friday to demand Gov. Doug Ducey support stricter gun-control laws.

…and this accompanying image.

March For Our Lives protesters demand “their lives and safety become a priority and that we end gun violence and mass shootings in our schools and communities” march at the Arizona State Capitol on Mar. 24, 2018 in Phoenix, Arizona.

Perhaps they’ve forgotten that it was a citizen shot by a cop that sparked the “Hands up, don’t shoot” BS, not a shooting by the people they want disarmed.


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