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Broward County grabs shovel, digs deeper

The Broward County Sheriff’s office and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School seem determined to cost taxpayers millions in legal settlements.

I found this report today:

BREAKING: Anti-Gun Control Parkland Survivor Kyle Kashuv Questioned By School Security For Visiting Gun Range With His Father
Near the end of third period, my teacher got a call from the office saying I need to go down and see a Mr. Greenleaf. I didn’t know Mr. Greenleaf, but it turned out that he was an armed school resource officer. I went down and found him, and he escorted me to his office. Then a second security officer walked in and sat behind me. Both began questioning me intensely. First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, “Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?”

They continued to question me aggressively, though they could cite nothing I had done wrong. They kept calling me “the pro-Second Amendment kid.” I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.

This is only one side of the story. As yet, I haven’t seen responses from the school or sheriff.

On the one hand, the authorities might well say that they are acting in a new abundance of caution in the aftermath of their previous massive collection of failures. That could even be reasonable.

They’ll still have to explain in court why a person who assaulted people and damaged property at school, who put guns to people’s heads and threatened to kill them, who vandalized property, who killed animals maliciously, who credibly threatened to shoot up his school — et cetera and so forth — warranted less of an investigation than a pro-rights kid who appears on national TV, meets with Senators, goes to the White House, and has never threatened anyone.

Working with Kashuv’s account, we have a kid who posted nonthreatening accounts of learning shoot with his father and an instructor, with pro-Second Amendment statements (i.e.- political speech outside of school). His principal tells him some students didn’t like his posts, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong.

Apparently Kashuv was considered so nonthreatening that he continued on to multiple classes without incident.

Until after noon, when he was sent to see “Mr. Greenleaf.”


Aside: Kashuv refers to Greenleaf a an “armed school resource officer.” Earlier reports identify a “Kevin Greenleaf” as a “civilian security monitor” and a “security specialist at the high school”. If he is a civilian and armed on school property, isn’t that a violation of Florida Statute 790.06? If he is a law enforcement officer — a sheriff’s school resource officer — why do multiple reports refer to him otherwise?


Kashuv says he met Greenleaf who, rather than speaking to him informally where they met, specifically took him to an office, where they were joined by a “second security officer walked in and sat behind me.”

If I was surrounded by armed people, I’d consider myself to be in custody. Oh, wait; I did consider myself in custody. And that wasn’t even in a private office.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again.

“Third officer” reinforces the concept of custody. And it raises the question of whether a civilian “security monitor” or “security specialist” presented himself as a law enforcement officer. I would very much like to see Greenleaf’s status clarified.

I’ve mentioned “custody” a few times for a good reason. A person in custody must be read his Miranda rights and allowed to stop talking without legal representation. A minor has additional protections because the courts assume that a minor can reasonably believe he is in custody under conditions that would not necessarily apply to an adult.

Kyle Kashuv was sixteen at the time of the shooting, and is still a legal minor. He was taken to a private office, apparently by an armed person, and questioned there by two, and then three, armed people whom Kashuv identified as “officers.” I am not a lawyer, but that sounds a lot like a situation in which he would believe himself to be in “custody.”

So Kashuv’s account raises questions that need answering by the school and sheriff’s office:

  • If the questioners said Kashuv had done nothing wrong, was this harassment purely for his out-of-school free political speech in support of Second Amendment rights?
  • Is Greenleaf a civilian unlawfully armed in a school?
  • If Greenleaf is a civilian, is he presenting himself in a way that would cause a reasonable person — especially a minor — to believe he is a law enforcement officer; that is, impersonating an officer?
  • Was Kashuv in custody and questioned without Miranda rights to parental or legal representation?

If Greenleaf is an armed civilian in the school, I expect we’ll see the school throw him under the bus. “Oh, we didn’t know he was carrying a gun in school. We’ll fire him immediately.” To cover their own asses, the sheriff’s office may have to arrest him.

I’m looking forward to statements from the BCoward Sheriff’s Office and the school.


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#NEVER AGAIN

People using the große Lüge and Reichstag fires to demonize entire demographics innocent of crimes in order to suspend rights, to exert control.

The Third Reich? The Fourth, I’m afraid.

#NeverAgain

I’d put off writing this column because I feel so strongly about the subject. If that sounds paradoxical, all me to explain.

I am an impassioned writer. Sometimes, when I feel strongly about something — when I’m angry — that is reflected in my writing to an extent I think is inappropriate for The Zelman Partisans. I try to keep the material with extreme tone and language confined to my personal site.

This time — because I’m angry, and the topic — it is appropriate to TZP.

#NEVERAGAIN

I generally avoid Twitter and Facebook, for reasons of my own, so I don’t know just when the victim-disarming gun people-controlling fascists of the anti-RKBA movement adopted the hashtag slogan. I noticed it, and expected it to fade away when someone clued in the idiots. Around the time of the Parkland shooting it became impossible to miss. And either no clued them in…

Or it was exactly the message they want.

Scumbags in the major leftist media want you to associate this hashtag slogan with “eliminating school massacres.” Their clueless dupes go along. (I’m looking at you, David and Emma.)

Let me tell you about Never Effing Again, you lying bastards. You “Never Again MSD,” puppets.

Let me tell you about six million men, women, and children deliberately disarmed, herded away to concentration camps, and murdered. Seventeen million total “undesirables.”

It’s called the Shoah. Maybe you’ve heard of it as the Holocaust.

Seventeen million people murdered. All within a few short years. Families broken. Families eliminated completely. Often their very bodies eliminated.

Human beings registered and tagged like cattle, and sent to slaughter houses.

Can you grasp that number? Did “Common Core” math prepare you for death on that scale?

17,000,000.

More than all of America’s wartime casualties. Ever. Combined. More than all the civilians lost to what you like to call “gun violence.” In our entire history.

Combined.

Because they were disarmed by the Nazis.

Right about now, I’m sure the folks doomed to repeat history are smugly proclaiming that to be a right-wing gun-clinger lie, that the Nazis didn’t disarm anyone because the gun control laws were passed by the Weimar Republic. That conveniently ignores the 1938 — Nazi — law that allowed the denial of permits and licenses for Jews and other “undesirables.”

It ignores the 1938 Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons implemented the day after Kristallnach.

Common Core History skipped Kristallmacht? That was when the socialist Nazi government shuttered Jewish news and information sources, then allowed mass rioting and violence against those undesirable Jews. (Try googling “never again”, then try a search engine without the gun control spin.)

(I see Twitter, Facebook, and the “news” media has the blackout well in hand.)

Perhaps we should look back a few more years. The Reichstag Fire comes to mind: Someone torched the German parliment building; “communists” were blamed, and it was used as an excuse to pass new laws to suspend human/civil rights. Modern day victim-disarming rat bastards see every new high profile shooting — especially the ones the government should have been able to prevent (see Sutherland Springs, Orlando, DC Navy Yards, Charleston, Parkland) — as their own personal Reichstag fire to justify rationalize disarming the millions of people who didn’t do it.

Just like good little Nazis, pointing their fingers at the JewsNRAgun owners. Working to “make people free” of fear of gun violence.

#NEVERAGAIN is not yours to use to distort reality. It certainly isn’t your to use to reaccomplish the Nazis’ evil; disarming the undesirables all over again.

Be honest: The hashtag slogan you really want, that truly represents your goals is

#FinalSolution

It isn’t going to work this time around, Latter Day National Socialists. Because we do understand “Never Again,” and you aren’t dealing with 6,000,000 disarmed men, women, and disposable children. There are tens of millions of us who have a sneaking suspicion of your intent should you ever manage to render people helpless, and we declined to be… rendered.

“We knew. We told ourselves we didn’t. But we knew.”

So do you. Now, at least. You have no excuse.

Added: No excuse at all.


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