I ran across this article. The woman’s mental disconnect is astounding.
Jewish activist and legislators line up behind state’s new gun bill
Loren Lieb’s son, Josh, was shot twice during the North Valley Jewish Community Center shooting in 1999.At the time, Josh was a 6-year-old at the JCC’s summer camp. When a white supremacist came onto the Granada Hills campus with multiple firearms, Josh was shot in the shin and the hip. Fortunately, the bullets narrowly missed his spine, and he survived.
The incident exposed his mother, Loren, to the grim realities of gun violence in the United States, where approximately 40,000 people die every year from gun-related injuries, according to a 2019 Pew study (some 60 percent of those are suicides), and in excess of 393 million guns are in circulation, according to a 2018 report from the Switzerland-based Small Arms Survey.
Lieb, a retired epidemiologist, has since become a dedicated gun control activist. She is currently serving as board chair of Women Against Gun Violence and is involved with the San Fernando Valley chapter of Brady California.
The Los Angeles Jewish Community Center spree was horrific. But it also perfectly illustrates why more victim disarming gun people control laws won’t help.
The bucket o’chum perpetrator ignored about every law on the books.
- He was already a convicted violent felon.
- He was a felon in possession of firearms.
- He was in possession of an unregisted machinegun.
- He attempted to murder five people.
- He succeeded in murdering a sixth person.
- He fled the police.
Some reports indicate that his Uzi had been converted to full-auto; so that would yet another law ignored.
So what new law does Lieb think will work this time? California Assembly Bill 1594.
If passed, AB-1594 would authorize private citizens to file lawsuits against the gun industry — including manufacturers, distributors and sellers of firearms — “if their failure to follow federal, state or local law caused injury or death or if the gun industry member engaged in unfair business practices,” according to a preliminary text of the legislation.
If manufacturers, distributors, or sellers broke laws, then they can already be sued. This bill changes nother there. The tricky part is “unfair business practices.” In 17200, we find:
As used in this chapter, unfair competition shall mean and include any unlawful, unfair or fraudulent business act or practice and unfair, deceptive, untrue or misleading advertising and any act prohibited by Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17500) of Part 3 of Division 7 of the Business and Professions Code.
So if a manufacturer, distributor, or seller is engaged in some vague “unfair” practice, they can already be subjected to penalties. Again, Lieb’s hoped-for AB1594 changes nothing.
Even if it did…
The asshole who shot her son was a felon in unlawful possession. He obtained his firearms unlawfully, and not from the manufacturer or distributor; they were out of the loop. They couldn’t have stopped him from obtaining or using the firearms.
How in hell would they be responsible for what a fourth party did with arms obtained from a third party. If someone stole Lieb’s car, sold it on the black market, and the buyer hit me, could I sue Lieb?
It’s California, after all. Maybe I could, by showing that she hadn’t drained the tank (unloaded it), attached a steering lock, and locked it in a secure garage (“safe” storage).
If Lieb really wants to improve things, she should abandoned redundant legislation and concentrate on something that might work: sentencing reform that keeps violent people locked away where they’re less likely to murder innocents. At least prison could keep his violence off the streets.
Oh. Wait. California; so much for that idea.
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These people who attempt to pass these pointless new laws to try and make themselves feel better, while at no point making a bit of difference in human behavior, are sad excuses for rational people, and nothing we could ever say or do will ever convince them that they are totally wrong, even though we know with total certainty that they are.
The worst thing is, the USA was founded on the premise that we should have total freedom to live, without anyone trying to force their will upon another, from the main body, the government, to any other individual, who would want to tell us how we have to live, in order to make them feel a certain way. And we agree that we also won’t force our will upon others.
I believe that in general that is mostly a conservative way of life, and that by trying to force our beliefs onto another is a much more liberal or progressive way of life.
It used to be that the term liberal meant a much different thing. I was only 3 when JFK died, but from what I know about him, he would have been considered a liberal, but he didn’t want to force people to abandon their freedom or their rights, as protected by the Constitution. Some of his ideas might have been considered bad, and fought against by people on the more conservative side, but that is not the same as trying to force one side into capitulation and giving up their freedom and their rights. In fact, I doubt that Kennedy could even be a member of today’s Democrat party, given his much more conservative stance on so many things.
As for Ms. Lieb and her stance on guns, I am not one to judge a Jewish person’s thoughts about guns, but I do find it strange that any Jew would consider opposing total gun rights for all, since that was a big reason for the murder of some 5-6 million of her Jewish bloodline. The surrender of their guns was a major factor in their lack of ability to defend themselves from being taken prisoner by the Nazi’s. And the phrase never again should be the refrain on not just Jewish lips, but on everyone in the world. Sadly, it seems like it is not even on every Jewish mind, but selfishly this woman cares only about one single incident, that is over, and had nothing to do with a gun, but as always, with the wickedness of a human heart. And no law will change that, no matter how you try and write it.