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Ideal Conceal Revisited

The Ideal Conceal saga drags on. I received an email from Ideal Conceal. Amusingly, Thunderbird warns, “This message may be a scam.”

Apparently just to reinforce the idea that he knows nothing about firearms, the email includes a photo of someone boogerhooking the bangswitch. Granted, it’s a plastic model (no real prototype exists yet), but it’s supposed to be demonstrating what the real thing will be like.

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We wanted to keep our supporters updated!

Here’s the thing; I did not anticipate the HUGE outpouring of support and interest in Ideal Conceal as it went viral! While I am eternally grateful for your support; frankly I was not as well prepared as I could have been!
In the last month Ideal Conceal has received in excess of 14,000 emails and are receiving hundreds of emails per day!

In order to provide the level of service I insist on, I had to step up to a different email platform. Because of this much needed upgrade, some of you are hearing from us again or perhaps for the first time.

If I am late in replying, I am very sorry for any delay in getting back to you. If you have a question that has not yet been answered, click here: myidealconceal@gmail.com

* We are not yet taking pre-orders, but we are working on it. If you are interested in pre-ordering, we’ll put you on our list. Click here to join that list: http://eepurl.com/bYnxa5

* We are working with a distributor. If you are interested in being added to our dealer contacts, click here to be join that list: http://eepurl.com/bYhzDX

HERE IS THE RUNDOWN on Ideal Conceal
I will have a firing prototype early summer and you will be the first to see it. Ideal Conceal will go to production in October.

This pistol is a 2 shot derringer with a fixed sight. It has a polymer shell and steel components that make up the firing mechanisms. Specs will be available once the firing prototype is completed.

This pistol will not currently be legal in California or Massachusetts, but we are hoping to have a compliant model in early 2017.

Distribution will be national with an expected sale price of $395.
We currently are not selling internationally, but will be doing so in the very near future.

Of course you can also keep tabs on us from our Facebook page!

Please visit our Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/IDEAL-Conceal-patent-pending-546358565518939/?ref=bookmarks

Kind Regards,
The Ideal Conceal, Inc. Team

This is getting a little elaborate for an anti-RKBA hoax, but I’m still leaning strongly towards that: no prototype, but announces a price and says production will start in October? He says he has an FFL to manufacture, but doesn’t say who? No one to whom I’ve reached out will admit to being the manufacturer yet.

On the other hand, he went to the trouble of figuring out that Kommiefornia and Taxachusetts won’t allow his “pistol.”

On the gripping hand, that could just be meant to provide some plausibility, because it seems he didn’t notice that New York probably won’t either.

Sorry, Kjellberg; you need to do better than that to convince me.

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[Update 3] – I’m fairly sure that “iPhone gun” is a hoax

You’ve seen the hype over the Ideal Conceal “phone gun.” Who hasn’t?

But I’ll bet you haven’t seen a photograph of it. Every picture I can find is a computer-rendered image taken from the company web site.

Like this one:

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Now look closely at that hand gripping the “gun.”

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Try it yourself. Hold your phone (or paperback book, or any rectangular thingie) by the corner like that. It’s a poor photoshop. Even the street scene.

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Look familiar?

I emailed Ideal Conceal (and why do you suppose he’s using Gmail, instead of a more professional-apppearing idealconceal.com email address?) to ask for a photograph of the actual prototype; the idea being to establish that a real, physical product exists. Or not.

Kjellberg sent two more renderings. No photographs. Interestingly, the two image files are named “phun-gun-img-003e.jpg” and “phun-gun-img-004b.png.”

Phun = Fun? How professional.

When I pointed out that I wanted a photograph as a response to those who doubt the existence of the Ideal Conceal, he replied:

Unfortunately we don’t have a prototype that we are showing to the public. I have told every news agency and persons who contact us that info.

We will be releasing video etc when it is ready.

Doubters with doubt….

Thanks Kirk Kjellberg

Kjellberg  claims he’ll be building these guns. That’s real interesting, because the ATF only shows Ideal Conceal having a Type 01 dealer license. More interesting is the address given for Ideal Conceal: 4300 SCHOOL BOULEVARD

It’s currently up for sale, according to that link. An office building, not a factory.

A whois on the domain idealconceal.com shows:

Updated Date: 29-jan-2016
Creation Date: 16-aug-2015
Expiration Date: 16-aug-2016

A one year registration? Expiring before he plans to start shipping in October?

Whois also shows a different street address than that in the ATF records: 9127 Highway 25. I doubt that he’s manufacturing an oversized, stupidly designed derringer there, either. Since he claims he’s already taken 4,000 preorders, he’d better find — and equip… and man — a factory fast.

Especially if he’s taken money in advance on those preorders, someone might want to talk to the Minnesota Attorney General about potential fraud.

Or not. Maybe he isn’t accepting payments yet.

So if it isn’t a financial scam, what might be motivating the guy?

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Thanks to Mitchell Boone for finding that F******k post. If you’re having trouble reading that, it says:


Kirk Ennis Kjellburg
December 19, 2012
Dear Gun Lovers, let me introduce you to playground rules. When enough stupid kids can’t play say king of the hill nicely, they take away the hill. Use your brain, somehow this has to stop. Shouting for gun rights when the bodies of 20 children lay dead is about as selfish as it gets…

Yep. He wants to punish everyone who didn’t do it for the actions of Some Asshole who killed his mother and stole her guns to go on a rampage. Some pro-gun advocate.

I think we’re looking at the same sort of anti-RKBA action as the bogus RNC open carry petition. An attempt to embarrass gun owners and make us look bad.

Perhaps my guess is incorrect. If Kjellberg wishes to correct any misconceptions, I’d like him to answer some questions, and provide a little data.

Unless and until we hear from Kjellberg, I certainly wouldn’t advise anyone to preorder an Ideal Conceal pistol.

Update, 4/12/16: Aha! I found an article that I missed in the last round.

“Right now there isn’t a firing prototype all I have is a plastic model of it so once there’s a firing prototype people will feel more comfortable about how it deploys, how it shoots and that kind of stuff”, said Kjellberg.

I was right: No prototype; just a nonfunctional plastic model. Since he claims he’ll be shipping in five or six months, that motivational speaker/claims adjuster/microwave salesman better hurry up and get a manufacturer’s license, not to mention someone capable of designing a working gun since his LinkedIn page doesn’t suggest any engineering experience or training.

And no, Kjellberg has not contacted me to answer any of the above questions.

Update 2, 4/14/16: Kjellberg is now admitting that he is not a licensed manufacturer.The current story is:

“He isn’t properly licensed to manufacture such a weapon, though, so he connected with a friend at a Big Lake engineering company that has federal clearance for weapon design.”

I see three type 07 FFLs in Big Lake:

Interestingly, Bondhus Arms is marketing its own .380 concealment pistol, the CL380.

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While there does seem to be a working prototype, and they have a real approved patent, it doesn’t seem to be for sale yet (“later this year”). I wonder if Bondhus Arms would actually build its competitor’s .380.

I’ve sent messages to MPI and Bondhus asking if they are the manufacturer Kjellberg mentions. I’ve also contacted the ATF with some general inquiries (AOW, etc.).

Nope; nothing from Kjellberg yet.

Update 3, 4/15/16: Still nothing from Kjellberg. But the ATF responded. A company has problems when it’s response time is worse than a federal bureaucracy.

Basically, since Kjellberg doesn’t have even a prototype, and apparently hasn’t submitted anything to the ATF, they couldn’t answer most of my questions. I got the extremely vague answer I expected.

Mr. Bussjaeger: Thank you for your inquiry and concern in regards to the pistol that appears to be a cellphone. As ATF understands it, the proposed manufacturer of this firearm does not even yet have an operable prototype. If the company chooses, it can submit to ATF for determination the classification of the firearm. The ATF enforces two primary Federal firearms laws: the Gun Control Act (GCA) and the National Firearms Act (NFA). Based on the information ATF currently has on this proposed firearm, it would be lawful to manufacture under the Gun Control Act (GCA). So, to address your concerns: Based on what ATF knows of this proposed firearm at this time, it would be both lawful to manufacture and own/possess under Federal firearms laws. Again, ATF’s responsibility is to enforce Federal firearms laws as they exist and as stated, based on what ATF currently knows about the proposed firearm it would be lawful under current Federal firearms laws. Thank you.

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