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This is a rights violator. Learn how to recognize them

Meet Harvey Sloane:

Mitch McConnell beat me by scaring people about gun control. Nothing has changed.
On Sept. 14, 1989 , a disgruntled 47-year-old pressman of Standard Gravure, a printing company in Louisville, entered the plant at 8:30 a.m. He carried four semiautomatic weapons, a revolver, a bayonet and several hundred rounds of ammunition. He shot 20 people, eight of whom died. He then killed himself. This was the deadliest mass shooting in Kentucky’s history.

Let’s clarify some things.

A man on Prozac, who had been diagnosed with mental illness and had a history of multiple suicide attempts, had stated his desire to kill someone at work. He had made deaths against people at work on multiple occasions. Armed with a semi-auto AK-variant, a 9mm Sig Sauer pistol, a S&W .38 revolver, two MAC-11 semi-auto pistols, and a bayonet, he killed 8 people at his former workplace, and injured 12, before killing himself (successfully, at last).

His family sued the Eli Lilly company, maker of Prozac, claiming the company failed to disclose adverse side effects contributing to the killer’s actions. When they obtained information on previous disclosure failures on the part of the company, Eli Lilly cut a secret deal with the family. The deal was concealed from the judge.

Harvey Sloane, failed senatorial candidate, does not blame the mentally ill man who should have been a prohibited person, nor the people who failed to report him. He does not blame Eli Lilly, the manufacturer of a drug with now known side effects that include violent impulses. He does not blame Sig Sauer, the pistol manufacturer. He does not blame Smith & Wesson, the revolver manufacturer. He does not blame the bayonet, nor its manufacturer.

He blames “assault weapons,” a class that did not even exist at the time, and does not now aside from a few states.

He believes that firearms purchase background checks do not include those prohibited due to mental illness, while refusing to acknowledge that when that happens it is a failure to report on the part of governments.

The ’94 “AWB” passed. It didn’t work. Firearms meeting even the expansively vague federal law’s definition were so rarely used in crimes before, during, and after the law’s effective dates, that no one could find a statistically significant effect, good or bad.

This is how to ID these victim-disarming rights violators:

  • They don’t blame the perpetrator.
  • They invent new things to blame.
  • They ignore facts.
  • Being unable to learn from historical fact, they demand a repeat of that which never worked.

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An editor/publisher gets it right

I’m accustomed to contacting reporters and editors regarding blatant lies, wrong terminology, and a lack of knowledge of the Constitution and existing laws. So it’s only fair to take notice when an editor seems to get everything right.

Meet Elaine Kolodziej, of the Wilson County News.

The Second Amendment and a common-sense approach to guns
“When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”

Unfortunately, this is reality. Still, in most instances, the procedure is simply to wait the minutes for that policeman (the good guy with a gun) to arrive.

An unreasonable fear of guns often prevents the good guys from carrying guns. We have “gun-free” zones — in theaters, in churches, and in schools — making easy targets.
[…]
The issue is not just “the gun,” or even a specific type of gun, because there are millions of guns out there now that have not killed people and never will kill people. It only happens when an emotionally disturbed person — or a person intent on evil — gets a gun. We have laws that are supposed to prevent this from happening.

In last week’s school shooting in Florida, there were failures from within the established system of laws that allowed it to happen. The most egregious of those was that the FBI failed to follow protocol after parents and students reported the suspect.
[…]

RTWT

Yes, I did write to her and thank her for getting it right. And in further correspondence she got even more right.


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[UPDATE] That’ll be our first one-term president in a while

I wish I could be surprised, but even before Trump began to look like a serious candidate– well before he got the R nomination — I warned that his new-found verbal respect for RKBA was belied by a long anti-RKBA history.

Trump pushes ban on ‘bump stocks’ — devices that turn weapons into ‘machine guns’
President Donald Trump announced Tuesday that he has recommended that “bump stocks” — devices that let semi-automatic weapons fire hundreds of rounds per minute — be banned.

Trump signed a memorandum recommending that Attorney General Jeff Sessions propose regulations that would declare that bump stocks are illegal because they effectively turn legal semi-automatic weapons into outlawed machine guns.

I told you the fix was in.

Age limit for buying AR-15 assault rifle ‘on the table’: White House
The White House said on Tuesday setting an age limit for buying AR-15-type assault rifles, the type purchased legally by a teenager who shot dead 17 people at a Florida high school last week, was under consideration.

It will be interesting to see how they define the restricted firearms. Will they include California-compliant “non-assault weapon” ARs, bolt-action rifles, revolvers, pistols, and pump-action shotguns?

ETA:

White House on ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban: ‘We Haven’t Closed Doors on Any Front’
NPR’s Mara Liasson asked, “In 2000 [President Trump] did support an ‘assault weapons’ ban. What is his position now?” She followed her own question by asking if President Trump supports “reinstating” the 1994-2004 federal “assault weapons” ban.

CNN reported that Sanders responded by saying, “I don’t have any specific announcements, but we haven’t closed the door on any front.”


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Gun Controllers, Shut Up and Listen For a Few Minutes

The Parkland high school mass murderer appears to have been a prohibited person, unable to lawfully purchase firearms, who was never reported to NICS.

Sound familiar?

Yes, I know; you’re enjoying your dance in the blood of the Parkland innocents. This looks like the perfect time to call for more restrictions on rights because people are upset. You think this one proves people can’t be trusted, and more laws will fix everything.

After all, who really needs a gun when the government is there to protect you, eh?

I’ve already discussed why you shouldn’t be targeting the tens of millions who didn’t do it. But I know those innocent millions are exactly who you’re afraid of (“Gee, what do they want to do to us, that they need us unarmed?” he wondered rhetorically.)

And NO. Genocide and ethnic cleansing really wouldn’t go down the way you hope. Drop it.

So let’s look at all the legal loopholes that need plugging; the ones you pretend allowed the Parkland horror to happen. Let’s see how well government protected those students and faculty.

Asshole T. Chumbucket (what; you thought I’d give him the notoriety he wanted by naming the SOB?) had quite the history according media reports.

  • He had been suspended from school multiple times for violence, acts of destruction, and weapons violations; incidents going back at least as far as the seventh grade. He was apparently never arrested.
  • Law enforcement was called to his home 39 times in seven years, for threats, harassment, vandalism, and window-peeping. He was apparently never arrested.
  • He was expelled from school for another act of violence. He was apparently never arrested.

Offhand, I’d say the first few dozen failures here were not “weak” gun laws. I’m looking at law enforcement and the school system. That probably explains why both the sheriff and school superintendent are trying to deflect attention by screaming for… Yeah, more gun control laws.

But wait! as the commercial narrator said. There’s more.

The Sun-Sentinel obtained a Department of Children & Familes (DCF) investigative report from September 2016 after the murderer-to-be cut himself on Snapchat.

“Mr. Cruz has fresh cuts on both his arms. Mr. Cruz stated he plans to go out and buy a gun. It is unknown what he is buying the gun for,” the DCF report reads.

But that didn’t really raise any red flags. Of course not. Why worry about a violent and self destructive guy getting a gun?

[The shooter’s mother] said her son did not have a firearm. She said she had confiscated his air gun because he didn’t follow house rules about only shooting it “within the backyard and at targets.”

And the little fact that his mother didn’t even trust him with an airgun still didn’t raise eyebrows.

Apparently DCF joins the line of government agencies getting paid to protect and declining to bother. Maybe Florida taxpayers should skip paying and just burn the government’s “share” for heat; less administrative overhead, and they’d get something for it.

But here’s where things get interesting. The investigation by DCF came after chumboy turned eighteen, after he became a legal adult, after he normally wouldn’t be under their jurisdiction. Why?

Cruz came under DCF’s supervision and care because he was classified as a vulnerable adult due to mental illness.

How does one go about getting “classified” as a “vulnerable adult” in Florida? Does some concerned citizen merely call DCF, who immediately declares him such?

Well, they can in certain emergency situations. Even though the cutting was done, that might count…

…but they came out to investigate because he was already a “vulnerable adult.”

Let me tell you how one gets classed as a “vulnerable adult” in Florida:

If the department has reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult or a vulnerable adult in need of services is being abused, neglected, or exploited and is in need of protective services but lacks the capacity to consent to protective services, the department shall petition the court for an order authorizing the provision of protective services.

Petition the court? And how does that work?

1. The court shall set the case for hearing within 14 days after the filing of the petition. The vulnerable adult and any person given notice of the filing of the petition have the right to be present at the hearing. The department must make reasonable efforts to ensure the presence of the vulnerable adult at the hearing.

2. The vulnerable adult has the right to be represented by legal counsel at the hearing. The court shall appoint legal counsel to represent a vulnerable adult who is without legal representation.

A hearing before a judge, with advance notice, and legal representation. Remember those; it’s important.

(d) Hearing findings.–If at the hearing the court finds by clear and convincing evidence that the vulnerable adult is in need of protective services and lacks the capacity to consent, the court may issue an order authorizing the provision of protective services.

Apparently a judge adjudicated the asshole to be mentally incompetent due to mental illness. TZP members saw where this was going some paragraphs back. I’ll explain for similarly mentally incompetent media types and other victim disarmers.

18 U.S. Code § 922
(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—
[…]
(4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution

So A. Fishbait was a prohibited person, unable to lawfully possess a firearm. To be a client of DCF he had to be to be mentally deficient.

So why wasn’t he reported to NICS, which could then have denied his rifle purchase? Did Florida simply not know about The NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007?

The NIAA was enacted in the wake of the April 2007 shooting tragedy at Virginia Tech. The Virginia Tech shooter was able to purchase firearms from an FFL because information about his prohibiting mental health history was not available to the NICS, and the system was therefore unable to deny the transfer of the firearms used in the shootings. The NIAA seeks to address the gap in information available to NICS about such prohibiting mental health adjudications and commitments and other prohibiting backgrounds. Filling these information gaps will better enable the system to operate as intended, to keep guns out of the hands of persons prohibited by federal or state law from receiving or possessing firearms.

In case you media and other rights violators have forgotten, another bucket of chum was able to kill 32 people and wound 17 more (at a school) because Virginia authorities neglected to report him. NIAA fixed that “loophole” that let governments screw up.

We don’t need more human/civil rights-violating laws. No “assault weapons” bans. No licensing, registrations, “improved” preemptively-prove-your-innocence prior restraints.

We need the schools, cops, DCF, and whoever the heck was responsible for reporting to do the freaking jobs they’re sucking taxpayer money to currently not do.

Let’s close the government “I’m too lazy to bother” loophole. Then the FBI’s “What? Multiple credible reports of a named threat? I’m too busy going to Starbucks” loophole — which likewise needs to be closed by closing the FBI — wouldn’t have mattered either.


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Never Again

I posted a column on my personal blog yesterday. While it was about “gun control,” I thought the tone and expletives made it inappropriate for The Zelman Partisans blog, where I’m a guest. I was angry when I wrote it.

But overnight, a comment on it was posted that makes it germane to the mission of TZP.

In the past, I have posted here about gun people controllers’ screeching for vague or redundant “new” laws to violate human/civil rights. I ask these 18 U.S. Code § 241 lawsuit candidates to be specific as to what solutions they want imposed, instead of whining, “We need common since laws.”

Someone  got specific.

So, there’s the first solution. Universal healthcare. Make healthy choice the norm rather than being a country that waits until a sickness is unbearable before seeking treatment.

OK, that’s still a bit general, and it doesn’t seem to have worked particularly well in other countries.

There’s something to the shooters being straight white men. Hellooooo, elephant in the room.

Beg pardon? And what does this person suggest doing about those “straight white men”?

So, an actual second solution. Do away with the old guard. People over the age of 55, for the most part, are only looking out for #1.

Genocide. Ethnic cleansing. Eliminating everyone over the age of fifty-five.

Getting rid of everyone over 55yo? That’s roughly 75,000,000 people. Sheesh, Hitler and Stalin were pikers compared to Little Miss Genocide here. But that might make her “universal healthcare” workable; Dr. Zeke Emmanuel thought well of it; when advising on Obamacare, he proposed limiting and cutting off care when people got too old.

Personally, I’m strongly opposed to genocide, hence my affillation with The Zelman Partisans. But if that’s your thing, maybe you should consider other target demographics than “straight white men,” or everyone over 55. Take a look at the UCR data on killer age and race. If you’re into ethnic cleansing, you could start with the 5% of US counties that account for nearly all murders.

Pro Tip: If you want people to give up their guns, don’t tell them you want them dead.

Pro Tip 2: So long as evil like that exists, so will groups like The Zelman Partisans who work to make sure it can’t, that everyone can choose defense.

Never Again.


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Parkland, FL HS School Shooting

Now that the victim disarming gun people controllers are dancing in the blood of innocents, screeching for “common sense gun laws,” let’s see what we know about the alleged asshole.

  • He committed his crime in a “gun-free” zone.
  • He was too young to be licensed to carry, so toting that gun around, even before reaching the school, was a crime.
  • He reportedly bought his rifle legally, passing a background check.

That last point is important, because it sounds like he shouldn’t have… except someone may not have been doing their jobs.

The school district is pretty quiet beyond saying the asshole was expelled for “disciplinary reasons,” but students — and others — have a lot more to say

Despite the complaints, violence, destruction, peeping tom activities, harassment, threats, and numerous police responses, apparently no one ever bothered arresting him. Much of this appears to have occurred while he was a minor, but serious actions also occurred — before this shooting — while he was an adult.

He could have been arrested. And based on the sheer number of witnesses coming forward, I think he could have been convicted of a crime making him a prohibited person.

He could have been taken into custody and presented to a judge who could have ordered him into involuntary mental health treatment. That’s a two-fer: he would have become a prohibited person, and just maybe they could have helped him.

Yes, I’m playing “Monday morning quarterback;” ‘hindsight’s 20/20,’ and all that. But with a years-long history of mental health issues, threats, harassment, violence, destruction, weapons violations, expulsion, and police complaints, are my after-action observations unreasonable?

The victim disarming gun people controllers will say, “Yes.” They’ll blame the gun. They’ll blame the millions of gun owners who didn’t do it. They’ll screech for new laws that already exist (yes, someone already called for background checks). They’ll ignore the fact that several laws of the sort they promised would end violence forever… didn’t work.

Which just means they’ll demand still more laws. That still won’t work, when blatant threats like this guy go uncontrolled, and when the laws never really apply to the people committing the crimes.

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Taking their word for it

I’ve been writing for The Zelman Partisans, and editing the weekly newsletter, for almost two and a half years. It involves reading a lot of news, commentary, and… BS. Every freaking day.

A lot of the same BS. Every freaking day. The same lies, the same false claims; over and over and over and…

Yeah. I’m burning out a little.

Lately, it’s been “bump-fire stocks turn guns into automatic weapons” and “OMG! Untraceable ‘ghost guns’.”

Case in point: Last week, I caught the Atlanta JournalConstitution in a claim that a producer built an assault rifle. Most likely, Josh Wade built a semiautomatic AR-pattern rifle, which is perfectly legal in Georgia (and most of America), but…

The article very specifically called it an assault rifle. “Assault rifle” has a specific meaning, and happens to be a machinegun under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Building one requires a license. Building one for personal use is now illegal, and has been since 1986 under the misnamed Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. Private possession of a newly manufactured machinegun is illegal. AJC.com’s Ken Foskett made a very specific claim that Wade had committed multiple federal felonies good for an extended Club Fed vacation.

I pointed that out. It being the notoriously anti-RKBA AJC, I assumed that they were deliberately conflating “assault rifle” with “assault weapon,” and by extension any semiautomatic rifle they don’t like. Thus, I also mentioned that “assault weapon” is a term with no legal meaning in Georgia.

Partial victory: They changed the story to expunge any mention of the legally troublesome term “assault rifle.”

What they did not do was publish an acknowledgement of the “error.”

Think about that. A reader told them that building an assault rifle as described is unlawful. Foskett said in email that a fellow journalist told him the same thing. You’d think he’d publish an ass-covering note like so:

“This article originally referred to the rifle as an “assault rifle.” We discovered that, through our ignorance, we used the wrong term. An “assault rifle” is a specific, highly regulated, and taxed firearm, and is not what producer Josh Wade built and had tested. We apologize for the error.”

Nope.

Rather than admit an error that might draw attention to their first claim, they decided to scrub the article — text, graphics, and URL — of any mention of “assault rifle.” But again — and oddly — no correction they didn’t build an assault rifle.

Is that what Wade really constructed? And they just want the report to go away before authorities notice?

I’ve been making a hobby of contacting such writers to correct their less-than-accurate claims. I’m tired of that. I get ignored, or lied to. What I will now do is take their claims at face value.

Foskett said Wade unlawfully built an assault rifle. He hasn’t actually denied it; he hid the claim. I’ll believe him.

And I’ll believe it every other time some dumbass “journalist” makes a similar claim, like this guy who says he built an unserialized Glock-type pistol. In California.

What’s the big deal? In California, one is lawfully required to serialize any homebuilt firearm. You do not yet have to register it with the state, but you have to apply an ATF-compliant serial number.

“If you do finish your 80% lower before the July 1, 2018 deadline, you’ll still have to engrave it with a valid serial number (one which meets the ATF’s requirements) but you won’t have to report the receiver or the serial number to the California DOJ or the ATF.”

Some people believe that once you know about an unlawful activity, you have a civic obligation to report it. It wouldn’t really be “malicious compliance”. Just… helpful.

CBS’ Carter Evans, in creating his “ghost glock,” made a point of saying nothing is serialized; even claims it isn’t required. Ignorantia juris non excusat.

One may contact the California Office of the Attorney General here. If you don’t want to use the web contact form:

Telephone Number

General Information
Phone: (916) 227-7527
Fax: (916) 227-7480

Bureau of Firearms Addresses

Mail may be sent to the Bureau of Firearms at the following address:

Bureau of Firearms
P.O. Box 820200
Sacramento, CA 94203-0200

If you’re in need of a little cash, Los Angeles has a convenient snitch system, and is offering a “1,000 reward to anyone who provides information that leads to the recovery of an illegal firearm>.”

In the case of Foskett and Wade’s assault rifle, that’s a federal matter. The ATF conveniently provides contact information, too.

ATF Hotlines:

Report Illegal Firearms Activity
1-800-ATF-GUNS (1-800-283-4867)

ATFTips@atf.gov

ReportIt® mobile app, available on both Google Play and the Apple App Store.

www.reportit.com

Depending on the situation, you might want to consider disposable pre-paid phones, anonymous email, and/or free VPNs.

If nothing else, Carter, Wade, and Foskett might learn which lies to leave out of their stories, as they enjoy their law enforcement scrutiny.


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NH State Sen. Jeff Woodburn: Idiot, or pro-RKBA Mole?

Suddenly, I’m not sure.

Woodburn penned a column “explaining” his bump-fire stock ban bill, which was riddled with enough errors to prompt me to write to him. It was the usual tripe you see from the gun  people controlling victim disarmers: bump-fire stocks turn rifles into automatic weapons, Mandalaly Bay the deadliest shooting in history, the NFA banned machineguns…

It also prompted me to read the text of his bill, SB 492.

Oh. My.

Bump Stocks

159:27 Definition. As used in this subdivision, “multiburst trigger activator” means either of the following:

I. A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm, which allows the firearm to discharge 2 or more shots in a burst by activating the device.

II. A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

First off, you’ll note that nothing in that definition evens applies to bump-fire stocks, which simply use recoil to bring the rifle into battery and engage to trigger finger for each shot. Oopsie; that’s what happens when folks who know zip about guns try to.. well, I’m not sure now what he’s trying. Look at II.

when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.

I think that was supposed to address trigger cranks. But, as written, it doesn’t. Because it can’t increase the rate of fire of the firearm. I hate to give them ideas, but if they wanted to ban cranks, it should have read activates the firearm’s trigger multiple times per manual cyclic operation of the device.” So if you’ve got three little teeth on your crank, turning it through one full cycle hits the trigger three times. Of course, you need only remove two teeth and crank faster. But then, I figure if you just want to waste ammunition, you can always pull the trigger real fast.*

Woodburn has submitted a bill to ban stuff that only bans stuff that doesn’t exist. Is he an idiot?

Or is he a closeted freedomista, an RKBA mole, merely diverting the real victim disarmers and wasting their time?

Judging by the other bills he’s submitted, I have to go with “idiot.” And reading further down in SB 492…

159:29 Exceptions. The provisions of this subdivision shall not apply to:

III. The sale to, possession of, or purchase of a multiburst trigger activator by any federal, state, or political subdivision of the state agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law for use in the discharge of its official duties.

IV. The possession of a multiburst trigger activator by any law enforcement officer of any federal, state, or political subdivision of the state or state agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, when the officer is on duty and the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of the officer’s duties.

Oh. My. Imagine, if you will:
Police in a standoff with an alleged perp in a house. Tired of waiting, the officers break out the bump-fire stocks and trigger cranks and hose down the house.

And the neighborhood.

Passing traffic.

Likely each other.

Did Woodburn ask any cops if they want to use “multiburst trigger activators” on the job? Did any say, “Yes”? Do those still have LE certification?


* Disclosure: Around 25 years ago, I bought one of those “Hell-Fire” trigger adapters just to see what the fuss was. Took it to a range one  day and tried it out. Not impressed. The guy with me tried it. Not impressed.

“That was stupid.” Took it off, and tossed in a box. Haven’t even seen it in at least 14 years; I figure it got lost in a move, and I haven’t missed it a bit.

I will admit to liking the gun show display of the trigger crank tripod with dual Ruger 10/22 actions. “You kids! Get offa my lawn!”


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Thank you for that demonstration

So DemDimocratic state Rep. Charles Young Jr. wanted to protest pro-RKBA legislation.

Miss. lawmaker displays pistol to protest gun legislation
He told House Speaker Philip Gunn that he and others are violating a joint legislative rule that says no one but sworn law enforcement officers can carry a gun in the Capitol or House and Senate chambers.

So anti-gun rules and laws… don’t work, Rep. Young?

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Astro-Turf Alert

A media/advertising group is trying to start a new astro-turf group to violate rights.

United Rifle Association:

The Brief: Help Stop Gun Violence
This may be one of the world’s most difficult briefs: Tackle the gun-fatality epidemic in a way that could help lead to a solution.
[…]
Creating a counter-balance to the NRA’s political power and influence is no small task. We will start by chipping away at it bit by bit. Our strategy will be to attract moderate and progressive gun owners, with a more reasonable approach to gun rights and ownership. The result will be uniting disgruntled NRA members, moderate gun owners and disenfranchised public representatives in a place where it is safe to vote their conscience.

Speaking personally as “disgruntled” former NRA member, let me tell you that I’m not in the market for more freaking gun people-controlling human/civil rights violations.

Got ideas? Submit them to Creativity Editor Ann-Christine Diaz at adiaz@adage.com.

Oh, yes. Do.

Possible talking points:

  • The anti-gun VPC admits several hundred thousand defensive firearms uses per year. Won’t that be difficult if the defensive tools are locked up?
  • Roughly two-thirds of firearms-related deaths are suicides. Won’t the suicidally inclined simply unlock the implements, or use something else?
  • The vast majority of murders are committed by prior felons with stolen guns. How do you propose to get them to “safely secure” their weapons?
  • Accidental firearms-related deaths are at a decades (possibly all-time) low. Maybe we’re already fixing the problem.
  • Guns and honest gun owners don’t seem to be the problem. Have you considered incarceration, education, and self-defense?
  • We already have a pro-gun people-control group. It’s called the National Rifle Association.

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